ESDU’s Metallic Materials Data Handbook provides validated material property ESDU , The Metallic Materials Data Handbook (MMDH) first came into. ESDU Metallic Materials Data Handbook. Listed Publication bodies. EN. European Committee for Standardization (CEN). Available. ESDU is an engineering advisory organisation based in the United Kingdom. Contents. 1 Profile; 2 Engineering topics covered; 3 History; 4 External links.
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Guess I know what I’ll be reading through this weekend.: So, for the real question: Seven-letter acronyms never roll of the tongue well in conversation. Until I hear something better, my vote is “em-pads”. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 This is huge.
Thanks for the info. I’ve already flipped through it a bit, and it seems to match up with Mil-Hdbk-5J page for page. Where it will go in the FAA’s hands, I don’t know. Sort of like saying good bye to an old friend. Best regards, Brett RE: The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 How about empdness? Thanks for the heads-up! What could be the problem?
Is anyone having thesame problem too? Is there any other link to download the file from? Much faster than normal – got lucky with traffic I esxu. Check your cache settings – probably not the problem but I’ve seen it reported lately as a work around. Sometimes if you pull off multiple servers using a downloader it doesn’t assemble correctly. Other possible causes – AV and firewall programs.
Try turning them off temporarily if you can or are allowed to.
Another possible cause is that if you pull from multiplie servers sometimes one will become bogged down and time you out. You are then missing a part of the file which will show up as corrupted.
Does your downloader have a resume function on it? The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 I asked around my office and someone had a copy of it. But thanks for the advice, it maybe my cache settings.
This is good stuff. Congratulations on your nuptials. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 Several military standard documents are being taken by non-military groups.
Mil-hdbk-5 is just one of the many documents the military is tired of updating and are releasing control of these to other groups.
Typically from what I’ve seen, the first draft under the new group is a straight copy of the last rev of the mil standard. There are some exceptions, but this is happening quite often lately. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 Makes sense to start the new document draft as being exactly like the old document final revision. Hope the FAA doesn’t start charging for copies of “armpits”. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 I just joined your web site recently and find it worth its weight in gold.
H, everyday and have two copies one at work and home. Denny of Oakland RE: It was expected to be released last spring and replace Mil-hdbk-5 since its publication, but, up to date I’ve not heard anything about this? Perish the thought that they might spend all their time doing that, instead of, say, pushing through the Sport Pilot licencing like they were supposed to last year. The main reason of course for it is “money” as usual.
As for the reasonsing, basically, the government is looking to industry to start footing the bill for developing material data, what do you think?
The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 – Aircraft engineering – Eng-Tips
What this might mean is that as new alloys are developed and say funded by a single OEM such as Boeing examples are and many othersthey may remain proprietary.
I think this will end up hurting the industry but may be necessary despite this. Anyways, I eesdu the addition of data and revisions will be far fewer in the future. By the way, always hold on to your old Mil-Hndbk-5 versions A thru J because they are the only ones with data for the old nasty materials like, etc. Not sure if you guys are aware but the government including the military is moving closer and closer to using the FAA to cover more of the certification burden.
In fact, many military projects transports of course not fighters are going this way. Fsdu a side note, the government is still debating who should be overseeing public aircraft includes VIP, firefighters, etc. I believe these too will come under the FAA umbrella soon enought. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 It is cost-effective for a military to retire its old aircraft and especially heli’s if they can simply make them conform to a civilian Type Certificate. As for firefighters, Aviation Week had an amusing comment a month ago about the Department of Forestry creating its own “internal mini-FAA” to deal with the burgeoning issues of continuing airworthiness in the fleet of old war-horses it contracts.
Many have decades more life left in them.
Metallic Materials Data Handbook
While esdj not “authoritative”, here’s some data: I pasted the wrong link in my post above. While eng’s post is exactly what you were looking for, the “correct” but still “unauthoritative” link for the T76 condition is http: If you are buying new material for you “fix” rsdu is what the AMS is calling out: Here’s where I found it today: The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 Or Note how the preamble goes: Funny, haven’t seen any changes yet The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 Folks Some alloy allowables, and most procurement specs, have changed over time IHS has these older versions as needed Regards, Wil Taylor RE: The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 The.
While updating such documents is a neccessity, I sure wish the FAA would bring its netsite under control and make these documents “findable. Would it have properties for “newer” aluminum alloys example: The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 From: The intent is to make the MMPDS Handbook the primary source of metallic materials and fastener allowable properties demonstrated to comply with FAA airworthiness requirements.
The proposed plan presents a strategy to secure funding for the MMPDS Handbook technical coordination process from multiple sources. Those include other government agencies, industry stakeholders, the private sector, and from sales of the handbook and related products. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 to wktaylor, I’m interested in these old materials. The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 rb I Just checked with IHS The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 thx wil, i was on their unsubscribed page The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 As detailed at the link in my post above, the current FAA plan is to begin charging for the handbook to help defray the costs of maintaining the docuement.
Kenneth, the FAA currently does not charge for guidance material, 09032 you want a paper copy of the 14 CFR or something like that. I realize with the latest budget cuts the FAA can’t even replace engineers esxu quit or retire, and according to our ACO they are depending on some to do just that so they can make the budget constraints. It makes sense that they would not have the money to support the constant revisions to the handbook.
This would appear to be somewhat of a precedent. We will use earnings from sales to defray the cost of updating, supplementing and revising the MMPDS. The modest charge for these handbook products will ensure their availability to small business and individuals. They are suffering like everyone else. I have found that there are some advantages to gained though. The MIDO just breezed through everything as they have a budget per company to stick too. So if everything looks ok, they don’t really go digging unless they have good reason.
This means I am able to get alot more stuff through at the same same time. We hashed out a program that will really make thigs move. This was done through a MOU. Give your ACO a hug! It goes a long way.
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The End of Mil-Hdbk-5 Nigel: They are using buzzwords like “maximimum delegation” in the project meetings. I would have to disagree with Kenneth – I believe that the FAA will have to start 00923 the delegation system to perform what it is supposed to do.
Often the DER approved data I submit is reanalyzed at the ACO, resulting in no savings in time for them, and a waste of money to us hiring the designees. I have found over the years that any items found by the ACO are very minor in nature, and the risk vs rewards ratio is extremely low. The FAA ssdu responsible for the safety of the air transportation system, esduu is immune from penalty for errors. As private companies and individuals, we are open to prosecution and civil penalty for any unsafe conditions that we create.
Aslo, don’t forget the FAA is made up of people.